Honestly I never cared about heaven or hell. I have no control over the universe, only myself. "Sin" always seemed to be anything I found fun. My "sins" are my own and none other. I don't steal, hurt kids, or women, or mind other peoples business. If all the rest is "sin" then the "saints" are just gonna have to run the world without me. I don't feel like I need to be "forgiven" for shit.---Ray
Re: anon,yeah I'm not buyin it. I myself am a Christian,but I wonder the same thing as that Eskimo,and your answer is 'you should have known because it's obvious' ,that's not enough of an answer. What else ya got?
To Ray: then all this stuff is not for you. However, sin is not what you describe it as, and you do need to grasp what ‘sin’ is. We have all been exposed to the natural revelation described in verse 20, while the next verse describes the sin - Romans 1:21 “For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools” I also sense a bit of pride in your ‘shit’. No man can plead that he has fulfilled all his obligations to God and to his neighbour; nor can any truly say that he has fully acted up to the light afforded him. To Billf: “What else ya got?” Those who are sceptic need to be more sceptic about their own views. I cannot answer your sound-bite with another sound-bite because there is no knowing what would be enough of an answer for you. Also, majoring on the minors is not good method in any field. The best I can suggest is investigate the bigger picture –or worldview. Get yourself the book “Grand Central Question” by Abdu Murray and then “Finding Truth” by Nancy Pearcey (both on Amazon).
Again: DON'T CARE. Please keep your religious belief any way you wish. BUT; Your "truth" is only true to you. It is your right as a free person to believe whatever you wish . If you FORCE your belief (as you just did) on others you are no different than the Islamic fanatic's in Iran. "Jihad" is just another way of saying "Missionary". "Correcting" and "saving" people by forcing a belief system on them that are doing no harm to others ALWAYS ends with the police state and Genocide. That kind of rape is far more evil than my lack of concern or interest. ---Ray
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He told him because none of us have an excuse Romans 1v20
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Honestly I never cared about heaven or hell. I have no control over the universe, only myself. "Sin" always seemed to be anything I found fun. My "sins" are my own and none other. I don't steal, hurt kids, or women, or mind other peoples business. If all the rest is "sin" then the "saints" are just gonna have to run the world without me. I don't feel like I need to be "forgiven" for shit.---Ray
Re: anon,yeah I'm not buyin it. I myself am a Christian,but I wonder the same thing as that Eskimo,and your answer is 'you should have known because it's obvious' ,that's not enough of an answer.
What else ya got?
To Ray: then all this stuff is not for you. However, sin is not what you describe it as, and you do need to grasp what ‘sin’ is. We have all been exposed to the natural revelation described in verse 20, while the next verse describes the sin - Romans 1:21 “For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools” I also sense a bit of pride in your ‘shit’. No man can plead that he has fulfilled all his obligations to God and to his neighbour; nor can any truly say that he has fully acted up to the light afforded him.
To Billf: “What else ya got?” Those who are sceptic need to be more sceptic about their own views. I cannot answer your sound-bite with another sound-bite because there is no knowing what would be enough of an answer for you. Also, majoring on the minors is not good method in any field. The best I can suggest is investigate the bigger picture –or worldview. Get yourself the book “Grand Central Question” by Abdu Murray and then “Finding Truth” by Nancy Pearcey (both on Amazon).
Again: DON'T CARE. Please keep your religious belief any way you wish. BUT; Your "truth" is only true to you. It is your right as a free person to believe whatever you wish . If you FORCE your belief (as you just did) on others you are no different than the Islamic fanatic's in Iran. "Jihad" is just another way of saying "Missionary". "Correcting" and "saving" people by forcing a belief system on them that are doing no harm to others ALWAYS ends with the police state and Genocide. That kind of rape is far more evil than my lack of concern or interest. ---Ray
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